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Originally Posted by wutchawant And furthermore, i too would like to learn about my own sexuality, desires and fantasies, I haven't tried anything "exciting" in the way of sex. I believe in romance, I went thru great lengths to serve my ex-wife. Bubble baths, cooking, cleaning (on a regular basis, not when I wanted "some"), I was raised by 5 women, so taking care of women comes second nature, to my own detriment, I might add. I spoiled her, and I got what I deserved, some may say, but I don't care, I am who I am, and I figure, hey her lost. I'd like to see her new 20 year old come home everyday and cook dinner and do laundry and then have the time and energy to give her full body massages with oil and the slowly kiss, lick and suck every inch of her body and then say "okay" after she was satisfied but too tired to return the favor, and not be upset about it. I enjoy pleasing my mate above myself, it brings me pleasure, I love giving soft kisses, massages, I can truly be satisfied by just touching and carressing and pleasing my mate. It's not all about "getting mine", I'd much rather bring a woman to her heights, and then lay down next to her and hold her and sleep, I'd snore loud. I've found that with this method, a woman will be normally more than happy to please her mate after this type of treatment, and if not, she can know that he is there for her pleasure, not his own. |
Wutchawant hit a nerve with me. Not just in swinging, but in vanilla dating as well. I was also raised in a house full of women. I also grew up hearing about "how bad men are" and swore I would learn from that and be the kind of man women wanted.
Well, I ended up being the kind of man parents and friends wanted for their daughters and friends, but not the kind of man women REALLY wanted. Why? I wasn't selfish enough. Strange, but true. I guess they couldn't reconcile someone being truly generous AND being able to stand up for himself and others. Don't get me wrong. I had plenty of bed buddies and three incredible relationships, but not many real girlfriends. The three relationships, ironically, were with women who were also swingers. I guess they did understand that a guy could be totally giving and strong enough to get the job done at work, in the community, at home, and in the bedroom.
So maybe this is the right place for Wutchawant, myself, and other guys like us. My best friend, when he was forced to move, lived with a couple that swings. Lucky bastard. Unfortunately he is sort of a Christian conservative and while he was willing to overlook their lifestyle, he burned his bridges with them because they didn't like the fact that he was into the extreme video games (Grand Theft Auto, Doom, Halo, etc) and they had a big argument about tolerance. Damn. I could have had a very local contact, but now I don't. He won't tell me their names, but I think I know them, anyway.
Wait a minute. Gotta little off track. Where was I?
Oh, yeah. He's a good friend, but my swinging experiences are not something I can talk to him about. He doesn't want to hear it. I started to explain the lifestyle to him in a hypothetical way when he brought his experience up, but he got really defensive about his stance. His choice, I'm not going to push the issue. He's one of the few male friends I have. All the rest are women that won't sleep with me.

No single males? I don't care. Those who want to meet me will try to find me. I'm just going to have fun and hope someone wants to have fun with me.
"If you're falling off a mountain, you might as well try to fly." I think thats from the I-Ching. It sounds Taoist.
