[javelin]

I think I am one of the posters who caused this topic to be raised. We have found the world of swinging to be quite difficult, and yes it is due to our high standards amoung other things I am sure. We are quite happy with each other, so we really are not looking to upgrade, but then again we are not really interested in a downgrade either. However, I think that the couples we tend to be attracted to, are more attractive than we are, so I gotta wonder why they would downgrade to us. Humm, a double edge sword isn't it. However, I guess we are also not interested in the casual swinging aspect either. We have been to a couple clubs, but actually never met anyone there. We are relatively shy couple who finds small talk uncomfortable. We have uncommon interests so chatting up people does not come easy. For example, I could care less about sports, which is about all the average guy talks about. We have met people on vacations, great people who seem to really like us as people, we get along great, then when we all get back to the real world they all disappear. It seems that everyone besides us already has enough friends, or too much work to do, or whatever, and never seems to have time to develop a relationship. I make time for people, work is secondary to me. Work seems to be the most important thing to so many people, that the real world dominates them. We are also shy about saying, "Hey, lets go to the bedroom and fuck." But many times the night has ended uneventfully because no one said just that. So, I think that for a shy couple, who is moderately picky, swinging is complicated. The people we have met who are the most successful are either the ones you are friends with 2 minutes after meeting them, or they have an outgoing bi-girl. That always helps.