Bear:Originally posted by bear_n_bunny
(Along about now, some self-righteous dingdong is going to get up and start bitching about me telling this guy to lie to his wife if he has to. Well, you are not the one who has to live with this man's wife, especially if she gets her panties in a major wad over this. As I have stated before in this forum, a certain amount of lying is necessary in most any relationship at one time or another just to keep the peace; the trick is to differentiate between a harmless "white" lie and a malicious one.)
I think your suggestions, from the male perspective, are quite good. I have a bit of trouble sometimes with your "macho-male" attitudes (in this and other postings), but truthfully, when I step back and try to look at things from the male perspective (as best I can), I can usually understand where you are coming from or headed to.
I don't think your suggestions are necessarily a lie. I believe it was more along the line of the "manipulation" I was talking about earlier. And while most everyone will say they don't like a manipulator or being manipulated, we all do it in one way or the other although I believe it is generally without conscious intent.
From the female perspective (maybe the "macho-female ), I would merely like to reinforce the idea that along the way of attempting to introduce Ms. Rabbyt to the idea, you reinforce your feelings for her - your emotional and sexual desire for her, and particularly your love for her alone. As you work on that aspect, along with Bear's suggestions, you will be increasing her self-confidence and ego, as well as opening all of those doors of communication that are spoken of so frequently. -EBF