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    <littledick35>
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    Cool Wife wants to watch two men together

    my wife wants to watch me suck another guy and then join in is that aloud at a swingers place. l like to see her with another female.

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    Most swinger clubs are no open to bi activity between guys. Your best bet will probably be to find a guy and enjoy the fun on your own (just the 3 of you).
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    Most guys when asked will
    deny from the highest treetop ANY interrest whatsoever in oral bi with other males. When Tam and I get them into a private room (whether it be at a club or not) they suddenly develope an interest lol. Tam loves to watch this also btw.

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    My wife and I have been swinging for a little over a year and we both agree that the last thing we want to see/be part of is two guys. This isn't homophobia or whatever, but when I see 2 guys going at it I feel there is something fundementaly WRONG with it. Now this doesn't mean I'm 'homophobic' or whatever 'anti-gay' name you can give me, but its about the most unsexy thing I can think of short of copraphillia. With couples we've met we've found this to always be the same. I've noticed that a lot of bi-couples get upset that the majority of the swingers community frowns on bi-men (not totaly unlike the same way straight females sometimes feel), but swinging is about what you want to do/see/experiance and a LOT of us males in it do NOT want to be part of that as its totaly unappealing.

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    We were with a Bi-Couple this weekend. Actually they were Bi-Curious by our definition. Neither had ever tried it, but where interested.

    While we're up for girl on girl. We're not up for guy on guy. And, had to make that point VERY clear, as they were very insistant.

    Not many males advertise this inside of a "social". And many socials, as Julie said, are not open to it inside the club.

    But I feel the same way about single bi males, as I do about single bi females. There are lots of them out there. So it shouldn't be hard to find someone to bring home and have fun with.

    Yahoo chat rooms seem to be filled with BI males looking for couples and singles.
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    I find most men object very much to trying a bi activity or even having it go on around them. But many of the WOMEN I know do find it sexy and want to see it, in the same way a lot of men find 2 women together sexy.
    I think maybe we women are just a tad more progressive in our thinking :p

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    I think maybe we women are just a tad more progressive in our thinking
    This is the sort of language I find a bit annoying as it implies that its somehow 'better' to be open to homosexual activities. The couples we have met the women were all mildly to totaly bi, but they too seemed 'grossed out' at the thought of 2 men involved in sex. Its not like I am offended some people like it, more power to them, there are just some sexual activities I find unappealing, and no amount of 'progressive' thought can change that.

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    Originally posted by Chicup:


    This is the sort of language I find a bit annoying as it implies that its somehow 'better' to be open to homosexual activities.

    Agree with you Chicup

    Its not like I am offended some people like it, more power to them, there are just some sexual activities I find unappealing, and no amount of 'progressive' thought can change that.
    Agree again. BTW....Nice to meet you Chicup......

    Connie
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    There another word for it and it isn't a nice word: Double-Standard

    Society, how men & women are raised (visit Nancy Friday's website), the entertainment industry... there is no getting around the idea if your a man... a single male at a swing club, viewing a man's penis on television, two men fucking each other...face it, we all have hangups about it.

    And it's wrong! Period!

    That said, I'm as biased as all of you! Guilty as charged!

    I would love a dick up my ass. If my wife's finger and tongue feels that good, how about the real thing.

    And at the same time, to look at my own dick, just turns me off, let alone another man's dick.

    It speaks to the very way men and women are raised, not by just our parents, but society in and of itself.

    The playing field should be level, but what one of us has the courage to rise above of our own prejudices and do what's right?

    Not me!

    SnittyKitty

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    Okay, I was not going to post as this subject has already been discussed quite extensively in another thread, but I just can't seem to help myself.

    It's true that a LOT of people are turned OFF by male bisexuality, but it is also true that a LOT of people are turned ON by it.

    The truth is that there is NOTHING WRONG with feeling either way.

    I like it. I hate the "double standard" of it being okay for a woman, but not a man, but that is the way society is.

    To the original poster.. Yes you will have a hard time with this in a social/club setting, as you can see from all the post here on the board that it is not highly accepted, but as Julie said, your best bet is to find a male on your own and have the fun you want privately.

    Teresa
    Ted and Teresa
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    Originally posted by TNT:
    this subject has already been discussed quite extensively in another thread
    Teresa
    Actually, it wasn't discussed on the other thread. I remember the one you're refering too. But, we've all missed the boat on this one. Littledick was refering to oral sex. No mention was made of anal.

    There is quite a differance. Someone would have a lot better chance of talking me into a BJ, than checking out my backdoor. :p

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    I'm not sure we can 'blame' society for this. All of my friends know I'm married but none of my friends (swingers excluded) know that our marriage is anything but normal. Society tells me swinging is somehow wrong, if I were trying to run for office and this sort of thing got out I would never get elected in most parts of the country (regardless of party) yet we do it anyways because we think 'society' can cram it :p . If I had the SLIGHTEST desire for a homosexual experience I would most likely try it, but to me its about as appealing as fucking my dog (and lets not see THAT thread again ).

    At any rate I don't see it as a double standard. Most swing clubs (and swingers if you look at adds) have no problem with girl-girl but big problems with guy-guy. This isn't a sexual liberation issue, but a 'what do the people want to see/be part of' issue. I want to be 'turned on' and seeing to guys having sex has just the opposite reaction to me. If I wasn't in the majority on this one clubs wouldn't have such rules in the first place.

    I would refer to my wife as 'barely-bi' and would rather leave it then take it, but she has never been turned off by seeing two women together. Society didn't prepare her for this, there wasn't any female kissing on tv when she grew up, and lesbians were thought of as only gym-teachers, unattractive women, and athletes. At the same time, she is turned off by seeing two guys together.

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    Ok David, you are right, there is a difference in oral and anal, but I consider male bisexuality to include oral and/or anal.

    And Chicup, I didn't know there was a "rule" at clubs that if you were a bi-male you could not attend.

    This is one subject that most men, if they are bi or bi-curious, will keep to themselves simply because of the fact that it is so strongly frowned on by people in the lifestyle. They don't want to be outed so they never admit it to anybody, ever.

    You are in the majority when it comes to vocalizing their dislike for it, but I sometimes wonder how may of those that say..Not me, never! are really thinking in the back of their minds...hmmm, I wonder?

    You and your wife are not turned on by it at all, and that is fine, but there are some of us out there who will stand up and admit that yes it turns me on big time.

    I just wish that it was not frowned on so much so that those that do like it, would not have to hide the fact that they do,just so they can be accepted.

    Teresa
    Ted and Teresa
    No lifetime is enough unless you live it in such a way as to make it enough.

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    I just wish that it was not frowned on so much so that those that do like it, would not have to hide the fact that they do,just so they can be accepted.
    What do you mean by accepted? I accept bi-males for who they are, I just don't wish to have sex with them.

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    By accepted I mean...when people find out that the male half of a couple is bi, they tend to not want to have anything to do with the couple anymore.

    Example..If you met a couple that you were both attracted to and thinking about playing with and in the course of the conversation, you found out that they were both bi, would you still play with them, or shy away, even though it had been expressed that just because they were bi, they did not have to or even expect to act upon it? Most people would not play out of fear that the other person would not respect their boundaries, even though they said that they would...this is why I feel most men will hide the fact that they are bi.

    I know straight women that will not play with a couple when they find out that the female side is bi...being bi means that you enjoy it both ways...not that you have to have it both ways or even expect it in every situation.

    It's just easier on a woman when she is bi, than it is for a man and I find this very sad.

    Teresa
    Ted and Teresa
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    Although traditionally bi activity has only been accepted among women in swinging, I do think that is changing. At least in our area and among the age group we normally meet (under 40) it does not seem to be nearly as big an issue if the man is bi too, compared to how it seemed to be 3 or 4 years ago.
    I think if clubs are going to be open to female-bi activity, they should be open to male as well. Not that too many men would participate, not that anyone should be expected to, but to say it is "not allowed" is a pretty old-fashioned idea

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    David, there is no difference between oral and anal. And there should be no difference between men & woman, bi-man & bi-women. It's only different because you have issues with it. Personally, I like the idea of having my hindparts fucked, if it'a woman doing it!

    This message board, the people who posts their messages, are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality?

    Reminds me of prayer in public school. We fight and scratch like hell for Christians to have prayer in the school, and once won, the Christians turn around and deny other denominations their right to the same!

    The perfect little circle! We have met the enemy and they are us!
    SnittyKitty

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    David, there is no difference between oral and anal. And there should be no difference between men & woman, bi-man & bi-women. It's only different because you have issues with it. Personally, I like the idea of having my hindparts fucked, if it'a woman doing it!

    This message board, the people who posts their messages, are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality?

    Reminds me of prayer in public school. We fight and scratch like hell for Christians to have prayer in the school, and once won, the Christians turn around and deny other denominations their right to the same!

    The perfect little circle! We have met the enemy and they are us!
    SnittyKitty

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    Originally posted by SnittyKitty:
    David, there is no difference between oral and anal
    Wrong on count one. We both have issues with anal here. But, most certianly not oral.


    It's only different because you have issues with it
    It's not "differant", it's damn painful! And, since we have issues with inflicting pain on anyone, ourselves included. I guess we do have issues with it.

    That said, we'll welcome a couple we are attracted to, into our bed anytime. Even if the male is BI. But, it will be by OUR rules, not theirs. Our rules say, there isn't going to be any anal with either of us, period. :p
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    Originally posted by SnittyKitty:
    are the very people the 1st Amendment protects. And yet, you choose to deny those ideas because this time it offends your morality

    I've been reading all day. But, I still haven't found it. What paragraph is it, that says me taking one up the arse is protected under the first amendment??

    If us refusing to do so violates someone civil rights (as in DENY them access to our arse). Then they need to take us to court. And shut the hell up about it.

    As I recall, it's a preference. We prefer not too. So we don't. That's all that need be said about it.

    There's another thing that seems to be missing in this thread. If by saying that we CHOOSE not to have male on male sex with a Bi Male makes us bad people. Why would it not also make that SAME bi-male a bad person, if he can't respect our preferences.

    It's all about preferences.

    End of Thread
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    Originally posted by <littledick35>:
    my wife wants to watch me suck another guy and then join in is that aloud at a swingers place. l like to see her with another female.
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    I would not mind joining you, let me know if u are interested

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    If you find MM sex distasteful then don't engage or watch it.
    I find anal sex distasteful but certainy would not suggest banning it at clubs or in the lifestye.
    I find people that are proud of ther sexual orientation to be fakes and blowhards too.
    Sexual preference is a matter of very intimate personal feelings.
    Of couse if it includes illegal or unconsenting stuff thats different.
    The double standard at clubs concerning male bisexuality is nothing more than old fashioned puritanism disguised as machoschism. Most of the guys that get all worked up about it are foot ball nuts and sports addicts that think that being macho means acting like there grandpa.
    well grandpa may have never swung but you are acting just like him when you give your unsolicited opinion on how distasteful some consenting sexual activity is.
    Personally I dont care if you like it or not. I don't care if you find it distasteful or a turn off. Why bring it up if you aren't trying to be proud of our sexual orientation? Be proud that you are a honest hard working parent, spouse and worker. Leave the sexual pride for how well you get others off.

    I may have sounded contradictory with my remarksa bout being turned off by anal sex but I would never bring it up unless it was for an analogy.

    I don't hear much about pain durng sex in this forum either. And I do not equate pain with sex but I have watch videos where people really get into it.

    Another subject is golden showers. Well Im not going there but if it gets someone excited then let them piss all over each other. Who the hell cares.
    It kind of bothers me when someone says.........im straight and intend to stay that way and get offended by people that think its wrong.

    do you have any idea that 99 percent of the people think you are normal and right. The true discrimination is with the attitude against bi men, gay men, sado maso stuff and other things that don't fit into the norm.

    Why get defensive cuz somoene finds you intolerant of there preferences.
    Try putting an article in your local newspaper forum about the wondeful fun you and your wife have found with swinging. lmao

    This is the only place where a supposedly open minded sexual couple can put themselves on a higher level than others that just do the same thing but in a different manner.

    I am proud that I am a good father, husband and worker. I am not ashamed that I like to suck a dick once in a while and if you find htat distasteful then thats fine. But please give me one reason why you would vocalize that feeling. Then condider if you are truly open minded or sanctimonious. P.S. My wife loves to watch it and thats half the reason. Id love to know if you would do that for your wife or if you just want to watch her do it to other women to satisy your own selfish desires. John

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    He's right David! You are a sanctimonious and pompous ass! I must have missed the workshop on those who don't like pain make the rules!
    SnittyKitty

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    Originally posted by TNT:


    And Chicup, I didn't know there was a "rule" at clubs that if you were a bi-male you could not attend.
    Teresa
    I think in most cases with clubs you will find it to be a "don't ask, don't tell" situation. Like someone else mentioned, once you get a guy into a private room what you do is up to you. But, in general, bisexuality amongst males is not openly accepted at MOST swing clubs (again it will depend on the club). So going up to guys at a club and asking them to join the two of you for a bisexual encounter would probably not be looked on too kindly... but that doesn't mean that there may not be guys there that wouldn't be open to it. However, I still say your best bet would be to find someone on your own (outside of a club) for this fun.
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